Okay, here’s where we are in this particular bog. The whole idea of all-time teams for football teams is utterly pointless if the teams don’t eventually play each other down to a championship of sorts. It’s semi-pointless even if they do – sort of the Society For Putting Things On Top Of Other Things of American sport.
Determining who plays who can’t be done in terms of record … oh, wait. Yes, it can. That's exactly what I did. I ranked teams on the basis of their all-time win-loss record and then paired them off, worst with best, second-worst with second-best, and so on.
You shall argue that this is a relatively unscientific means of pairing off, and you are completely correct. But the scientific methods take too much time. They’re like playing the fictitious games without playing the fictitious games, and playing the fictitious games is the whole point. If forced to choose between arbitrary methods, always choose the more fun of the two.
So teams were ranked worst to first and paired off, creating the following matchups:
Top Bracket (years; winning percentage)
Chicago Bears (1920-2010; 57.9%)
Houston Texans 2002-2010; 38.2%)
Arizona Cardinals (1920-2010; 41.4%)
Miami Dolphins (1966-2010; 57.6%)
New Orleans Saints (1967-2010; 42.8%)
Detroit Lions (1930-2010; 45.6%)
Cleveland Browns (1946-2010; 54.9%)
Carolina Panthers (1995-2010; 46.5%)
New York Giants 1925-2010 636 524 33 0.548
Seattle Seahawks 1976-2010 262 286 0 0.478
Baltimore Ravens (1996-2010; 53.5%)
Tennessee Titans (1960-2010; 49.2%)
New England Patriots (1960-2010; 52.6%)
St. Louis Rams (1937-2010; 50.9%)
Jacksonville Jaguars (1995-2010; 52%)
Pittsburgh Steelers (1933-2010; 52%)
Bottom Bracket
Washington Redskins (1932-2010; 51.5%)
Kansas City Chiefs (1960-2010; 52%)
San Diego Chargers (1960-2010; 50.5%)
Denver Broncos (1960-2010; 52.2%)
Philadelphia Eagles (1933-2010; 48.5%)
Indianapolis Colts (1953-2010; 53.2%)
Buffalo Bills (1960-2010; 46.9%)
San Francisco 49ers (1946-2010; 54.8%)
New York Jets (1960-2010; 46%)
Oakland Raiders (1960-2010; 54.9%)
Cincinnati Bengals (1968-2010; 43.5%)
Minnesota Vikings (1961-2010; 55.1%)
Atlanta Falcons (1966-2010; 42.4%)
Green Bay Packers (1921-2010; 55.9%)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1976-2010; 39.9%)
Dallas Cowboys (1960-2010; 57.6%)
Games are played in my head, again because the scientific methods don’t get you any further than the non-scientific methods, and because I just lost my APBA card of Mack Yoho. You can make a case for the occasional upset, or not. If upsets are allowed they’ll be brought into any pseudo-scientific algorithm through some brand of fake randomness, so why not make them not random at all but subject to your whims? At least the marshmallow scent of faux science is removed.
The first round has plenty of interesting matchups, starting with the all-Native American Redskins-Chiefs tussle. Two teams 30 games over .500 for their history, two teams that found success via ball control, and two teams that drifted away over time from the things that made them great.
The Redskins trot out arguably the most transformational QB ever (Sammy Baugh), three HOF wideouts (Charley Taylor, Bobby Mitchell, and Art Monk, lined up as a tight end in this matchup), two HOF running backs (John Riggins and Cliff Battles), an HOF O-lineman, and two HOFers each in the linebacking corps (Huff and Hanburger) and the secondary (Green and Houston).
The Chiefs, meanwhile, offer no HOFers in the O-line, the O-backfield, or the wide-receiving corps, and a QB (Len Dawson) widely considered to be the Trent Dilfer of HOF QBs.
It’s not a high-scoring game as it unravels in my head, despite the offensive firepower on the ‘Skins side. Baugh, continually under pressure from a combination of an aggressive Chiefs’ defense and a porous offensive line, goes 17-for-33 for 245 with two picks, a score, and three sacks; Riggins runs for 68 and Battles goes for 37 with a fumble; and Taylor and Mitchell combine to catch 11 for 187 and a TD.
On the Chiefs’ side Dawson is 18-for-29 with a score, Holmes and Johnson get a TD apiece, and Jan Stenerud tacks on three FGs at the end of short drives. Jerrel Wilson averages 45-plus yards per punt and the Chiefs win 23-17.
Good game.
So why do the Chiefs win? Because non-HOFers win football games – in reality and fantasy. Steve Young and Jerry Rice can do their Steve Young and Jerry Rice thing all over the football field, but without Keith Fahnhorst and Earl Cooper and Bill Ring they’re nothing.
In the case of Chiefs vs. ‘Skins, the quality of the Chiefs' non-HOF players is better than the quality of the Redskins' non-HOFers. Budde, Tyrer, Roaf, Shields, and Rudnay could block anything. Two of the five will be HOFers, and at least one more ought to be. They'd make golden-raisin mincemeat out of Gene Brito et. al., and Priest Holmes and Larry Johnson are more than capable of running behind that.
The Hogs have less luck moving Neil Smith, Buck Buchanon, Curley Culp, and Art Still, with Bill Maas and Jared Allen in reserve and Bobby Bell, Willie Lanier, and Derrick Thomas backing the line, just like their name implies.
The pass rush rattles Baugh, not the most accurate passer even when given protection, and largely shuts down his long-bomb game. Baugh doesn’t lack for targets, but Tony Gonzalez is better than Art Monk and Charley Taylor vs. Otis Taylor is a wash, so the fact that Bobby Mitchell whips the snot out of anything KC can trot into the slot is sort of moot, especially since Deron Cherry and Emmitt Thomas are killers in coverage.
Darrell Green and Ken Houston would be doing the same if Dawson threw the ball down the field, but here’s the thing: Dawson doesn’t throw the ball down the field. The Chiefs attack the Redskins’ weaknesses. They run the ball, pass to the backs, play a field-position game, and turn it over to the defense to hold the day. The Chiefs have the punter, the kicker, the kick returner, the D, and the coach to make it happen, so it happens.
The Chiefs advance.
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Wednesday, March 16, 2011
Line Power, via Neil Smith
This thing about lines, lest you think I'm just doing some sort of Jackson Pollock splash-painting with football words, really does exist. Really really. You can prove it for yourself using a spreadsheet and the simplest of analytical tools: your brain.
Go to pro-football-reference.com. Call up the page that lists all current teams and their all-time records. Copy it and dump it into an Excel spreadsheet. Then eliminate all the extraneous stuff, such as who the all-time leading receiver was for a given team. Yeah, there is some sort of hungover eyebrow-raising to be done at the revelation that Eric Martin is still the Saints' all-time leading receiver, but you know that record's going to last all of about another 10 months. Or 15 years, at the current rate of negotiations.
Once the non-essentials have been banished to Deleteville, sort the teams by won-loss percentage -- winningest teams at the top, if you don't mind. You should wind up with a spreadsheet that starts with the Chicago Bears and ends with the Houston Texans. (It's not an oldest-to-youngest search by any means, thanks to those Clint Hurdles of the football world, Detroit and ChiStlAz.)
Now go though the spreadsheet and identify the part of the team that has historically been the strongest -- QB, RB, O-line, D-line, LB, DB, WR, special teams. Use your memory; not statistics. It’ll be more accurate, unless you’re Barry Bonds, too.
Do that and you wind up with something like this:
Team Win % Strength(s)
Miami Dolphins 0.576 O-line, QB
Green Bay Packers 0.559 Lines, QB, RB
Minnesota Vikings 0.551 D-line, RB
Cleveland Browns 0.549 O-line, RB
Oakland Raiders 0.549 Lines, WR
New York Giants 0.548 O-line
San Francisco 49ers 0.548 QB, WR
Baltimore Ravens 0.535 DB, D-line
Indianapolis Colts 0.532 QB, WR
New England Patriots 0.526 QB, LB
Denver Broncos 0.522 QB, lines
Jacksonville Jaguars 0.52 WR, O-line
Kansas City Chiefs 0.52 Lines, LB
Pittsburgh Steelers 0.52 Lines, LB
Washington Redskins 0.515 O-line, QB
St. Louis Rams 0.509 QB, WR
San Diego Chargers 0.505 Lines, WR
Tennessee Titans 0.492 O-line
Philadelphia Eagles 0.485 QB, LB
Seattle Seahawks 0.478 D-line, RB
Buffalo Bills 0.469 O-line, RB
Carolina Panthers 0.465 LB
New York Jets 0.46 RB
Detroit Lions 0.456 RB, DB
Cincinnati Bengals 0.435 Nothin'
New Orleans Saints 0.428 Zip
Atlanta Falcons 0.424 RB
Arizona Cardinals 0.414 ST, DB
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 0.399 D-line
Houston Texans 0.382 Zilch
Sehr interresant, nicht wahr, that nine of the 10 teams have been characterized by at least one dominant line -- and have been able to perpetuate those lines over time and changes in personnel, rules, game play, and coaching staffs?
Nothing else comes close. You can win some games with a great QB, about as many with a great RB, proportionally less with great pass-catchers and D-backs. But you ain't perpetuating nothin' unless you're committed to building powerhouse lines every season, regardless of coach or quarterback. And while Kansas City isn't the winningest team out there, its whirpool runneth over with really solid D-linemen like Neil Smith -- a stout run-stuffer, a sack machine, and very, very comparable to Buck Buchanan. If you're wondering what a perennially great team is made of, here's your answer: Neil Smith. Four Neil Smiths, ideally.
Go to pro-football-reference.com. Call up the page that lists all current teams and their all-time records. Copy it and dump it into an Excel spreadsheet. Then eliminate all the extraneous stuff, such as who the all-time leading receiver was for a given team. Yeah, there is some sort of hungover eyebrow-raising to be done at the revelation that Eric Martin is still the Saints' all-time leading receiver, but you know that record's going to last all of about another 10 months. Or 15 years, at the current rate of negotiations.
Once the non-essentials have been banished to Deleteville, sort the teams by won-loss percentage -- winningest teams at the top, if you don't mind. You should wind up with a spreadsheet that starts with the Chicago Bears and ends with the Houston Texans. (It's not an oldest-to-youngest search by any means, thanks to those Clint Hurdles of the football world, Detroit and ChiStlAz.)
Now go though the spreadsheet and identify the part of the team that has historically been the strongest -- QB, RB, O-line, D-line, LB, DB, WR, special teams. Use your memory; not statistics. It’ll be more accurate, unless you’re Barry Bonds, too.
Do that and you wind up with something like this:
Team Win % Strength(s)
Miami Dolphins 0.576 O-line, QB
Green Bay Packers 0.559 Lines, QB, RB
Minnesota Vikings 0.551 D-line, RB
Cleveland Browns 0.549 O-line, RB
Oakland Raiders 0.549 Lines, WR
New York Giants 0.548 O-line
San Francisco 49ers 0.548 QB, WR
Baltimore Ravens 0.535 DB, D-line
Indianapolis Colts 0.532 QB, WR
New England Patriots 0.526 QB, LB
Denver Broncos 0.522 QB, lines
Jacksonville Jaguars 0.52 WR, O-line
Kansas City Chiefs 0.52 Lines, LB
Pittsburgh Steelers 0.52 Lines, LB
Washington Redskins 0.515 O-line, QB
St. Louis Rams 0.509 QB, WR
San Diego Chargers 0.505 Lines, WR
Tennessee Titans 0.492 O-line
Philadelphia Eagles 0.485 QB, LB
Seattle Seahawks 0.478 D-line, RB
Buffalo Bills 0.469 O-line, RB
Carolina Panthers 0.465 LB
New York Jets 0.46 RB
Detroit Lions 0.456 RB, DB
Cincinnati Bengals 0.435 Nothin'
New Orleans Saints 0.428 Zip
Atlanta Falcons 0.424 RB
Arizona Cardinals 0.414 ST, DB
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 0.399 D-line
Houston Texans 0.382 Zilch
Sehr interresant, nicht wahr, that nine of the 10 teams have been characterized by at least one dominant line -- and have been able to perpetuate those lines over time and changes in personnel, rules, game play, and coaching staffs?
Nothing else comes close. You can win some games with a great QB, about as many with a great RB, proportionally less with great pass-catchers and D-backs. But you ain't perpetuating nothin' unless you're committed to building powerhouse lines every season, regardless of coach or quarterback. And while Kansas City isn't the winningest team out there, its whirpool runneth over with really solid D-linemen like Neil Smith -- a stout run-stuffer, a sack machine, and very, very comparable to Buck Buchanan. If you're wondering what a perennially great team is made of, here's your answer: Neil Smith. Four Neil Smiths, ideally.
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